In this episode, host Sarah Melissa Oswald speaks with Laurie Lazar, founder and CEO of Realness Project, about her work in prisons, where she brings authentic relating practices to incarcerated individuals. Through deeply moving stories, they discuss the generational impact of incarceration, the resilience of the human spirit, and how connection can be a catalyst for change. Join us for a conversation that challenges assumptions and highlights the profound importance of empathy, healing, and community.
Learn more about Laurie at
https://www.realnessproject.org/ / @realnessprojectnonprofit
Available April 4, 2025:
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"Human beings are good. It gets beaten out of us, but at our core, we are good—and we can find our way back to that goodness through connection."
- Laurie Lazar
Show Notes
Realness Project
Dr. Stephen Porges
Colorado State Penitentiary
Caring for Denver
Dignity Humility Diagram
RLT Relationship Grid